DE Talk | The End of “Jobs Near Me”: Conversational AI Is Changing How Candidates Find Jobs

DE Talk | The End of “Jobs Near Me”: Conversational AI Is Changing How Candidates Find Jobs

Season 8 • Episode 4

“Jobs near me” has been the most common job search for 20 years, and with the introduction of AI, it’s on the verge of disappearing. Candidates have stopped typing keywords. They’re asking ChatGPT, Gemini and Claude for jobs that fit their experience, their schedules and their lives. If your jobs aren’t in the handful of answers those tools give, candidates never see you. And because the AI platforms share no search data, most employers have no idea what candidates are asking. In this episode of the DE Talk Podcast, host AJ Selvey of DirectEmployers Association sits down with Ben Russell, co-founder of SonicJobs, to talk about what’s changed, the misconceptions costing employers good candidates, and how CareerGPT brings a ChatGPT-style conversation to your existing career site without replacing your website or ATS. Ben also shares early CareerGPT data showing that more than half of candidate conversations lead to an application start.

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DE Talk | Fixing the Application Black Hole with Dalia’s Sam Fitzroy

DE Talk | Fixing the Application Black Hole with Dalia’s Sam Fitzroy

Season 8 • Episode 2

In this episode of the DE Talk Podcast, host Shannon Offord sits down with Sam Fitzroy, co-founder and CEO of candidate conversion platform, Dalia. Bringing over 15 years of industry experience—including key leadership roles at Indeed and The Muse—Fitzroy offers a candid look at the friction points plaguing modern recruitment. Together, they break down the flaws of volume-based hiring models, the impact of AI auto-apply tools flooding applicant tracking systems, and why making job applications overly complex harms both candidates and employers. Fitzroy also shares how talent acquisition teams can optimize content for generative AI search engines and previews Dalia’s upcoming candidate-support initiative designed to ensure job seekers never feel alone in their search.

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DE Talk | Reworking Recruitment: AI, a Frozen Job Market & the Human Edge

DE Talk | Reworking Recruitment: AI, a Frozen Job Market & the Human Edge

Season 7 • Episode 8

The headlines say unemployment is low. The front lines tell a different story. In this episode of DE Talk, Jeff Gill sits down with Brian Fink, managing partner of The ReWork Group and author of Talk Tech to Me, to unpack what’s really happening in today’s talent market—and what it means for the future of recruiting. From trust erosion in tech hiring to AI’s role as a force multiplier for mid-size companies, Brian challenges conventional wisdom and makes the case that in a frozen, patience-driven market, the recruiters who win are the ones doubling down on relationships, curiosity, and human judgment—not just automation.

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DE Talk Unplugged | Tapping into the Hidden Job Market with Summer Delaney

DE Talk | Posting with Purpose: Tapping into the Hidden Job Market with Summer Delaney

Season 7 • Bonus Episode

What do Katie Couric and modern recruitment have in common? According to Summer Delaney, Founder and CEO of CollabWORK, the answer is the power of authentic networks. In this episode of DE Talk, Summer joins Shannon Offord to discuss how her career in media revealed that the best opportunities often come from professional communities rather than job applications.

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