DE Talk | Fixing the Application Black Hole with Dalia’s Sam Fitzroy

DE Talk | Fixing the Application Black Hole with Dalia’s Sam Fitzroy

Season 8 • Episode 2

In this episode of the DE Talk Podcast, host Shannon Offord sits down with Sam Fitzroy, co-founder and CEO of candidate conversion platform, Dalia. Bringing over 15 years of industry experience—including key leadership roles at Indeed and The Muse—Fitzroy offers a candid look at the friction points plaguing modern recruitment. Together, they break down the flaws of volume-based hiring models, the impact of AI auto-apply tools flooding applicant tracking systems, and why making job applications overly complex harms both candidates and employers. Fitzroy also shares how talent acquisition teams can optimize content for generative AI search engines and previews Dalia’s upcoming candidate-support initiative designed to ensure job seekers never feel alone in their search.

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DE Talk | EEO Data in Flux: Navigating the EEOC’s Proposal to Rescind EEO-1 Reporting

DE Talk | EEO Data in Flux: Navigating the EEOC’s Proposal to Rescind EEO-1 Reporting

Season 8 • Episode 1

For almost 60 years, the EEO-1 Report has been a fixture for employers—love it or hate it, everyone knows the drill. Now the EEOC wants to get rid of it, and nobody’s quite sure what comes next.

In this episode, Alicia Wallace talks with Nita Beecher of Fortney Scott about what’s actually going on: why the EEOC is targeting EEO-1 reporting and the rules behind it, what EEOC leadership has said about how employers can still use this data, and why dropping federal reporting doesn’t mean the legal risk goes away. They also get into the uncertain position employers might find themselves in—no requirement to collect the data, but still very much exposed to discrimination claims if they don’t.

It’s a candid conversation for anyone who handles this work and is trying to figure out what to do next, not just what the headlines say.

This podcast is for general discussion purposes only and should not be considered as legal advice.

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DE Talk | Reworking Recruitment: AI, a Frozen Job Market & the Human Edge

DE Talk | Reworking Recruitment: AI, a Frozen Job Market & the Human Edge

Season 7 • Episode 8

The headlines say unemployment is low. The front lines tell a different story. In this episode of DE Talk, Jeff Gill sits down with Brian Fink, managing partner of The ReWork Group and author of Talk Tech to Me, to unpack what’s really happening in today’s talent market—and what it means for the future of recruiting. From trust erosion in tech hiring to AI’s role as a force multiplier for mid-size companies, Brian challenges conventional wisdom and makes the case that in a frozen, patience-driven market, the recruiters who win are the ones doubling down on relationships, curiosity, and human judgment—not just automation.

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